On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Elias Sinderson wrote:
--]Sorry, Karl, your confusing things. Thos is saying that selective
--]breeding should be counted as genetic engineering, whereas you are
--]extending his definition to include the attration that your parents felt...
The grain is this.......
Selective breeding, cross polinization, ie  is a MACROgenetic activites.
Your dealing with big structures like whole sheep, plants, seed etc.
Manipulating the actual DNA, protein sequences, etc etc is a MICROgenetic
activity.
MACROgenetic activites have decades on decades of testing...
MICROgentic  activities DO NOT.
You guys get the point yet, or do you want to play another round of
Obscura Detalist Retardo?
-tom
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URL: http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/archives/2002/09/20.html
Date: 2002-09-20T17:10:35-08:00
Yesterday Viridiana came to my place and dragged me out to look at the sky. It
was beautiful. Odd colors and light. Obviously we wondered what it was. Today
Jim explains it. (It was a rocket test from the Vandenburg air force base).
Very neat. It was a bit too blurred out when I saw it, and there was too much
street light to make a good photo, so I am happy to have found the photo from
NASA...

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