from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9794406D
	for <jm@localhost>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:00:27 -0400 (EDT)
from phobos [127.0.0.1]
	by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0)
	for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:00:27 +0100 (IST)
from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by
    dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VAs6217529 for
    <jm-ilug@jmason.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:54:06 +0100
from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org
    (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA30911; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:52:27 +0100
from mail.tcd.ie (geminia.tcd.ie [134.226.16.161]) by
    lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA30876 for <ilug@linux.ie>;
    Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:52:19 +0100
lugh.tuatha.org: Host geminia.tcd.ie
    [134.226.16.161] claimed to be mail.tcd.ie
from barge.dsg.cs.tcd.ie (barge.dsg.cs.tcd.ie [134.226.36.68])
    by mail.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73C6DE1 for <ilug@linux.ie>;
    Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:52:18 +0100 (IST)
(from david@localhost) by barge.dsg.cs.tcd.ie (8.11.2/8.11.2) id
    g6VAsUq00918 for ilug@linux.ie; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:54:30 +0100
From ilug-admin@linux.ie  Wed Jul 31 12:00:30 2002

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 11:28:05AM +0100, Satelle, StevenX wrote:
> When I was in school they pushed Irish down my throat. I developed a hatred
> for Irish. I did French for 3 years and German for 6 months, I could
> (almost) hold a basic conversation. I am proud of the fact that I don't know
> one word of Irish.
Going rapidly OT here, but I find it shocking that anybody could be
proud of not knowing something. It's like the tourist on holidays using
that speak-loudly-enough-and-they-will-understand technique or (slightly
less off-topic) the friend or relative who says "I know nothing
about computers!" and clearly doesn't intend to learn, and is happy
to let you clean up after them.
I certainly agree that Irish is not taught all that well (or wasn't
when I was in school) but I'd like to be able to relearn it and to
count it as one of my skills.
David
--
Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie
http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.
List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie