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I've noted that there are packaged versions of
Blackbox and hackedbox available from FreshRPMs.  What
I'd certainly enjoy a packaged version, since its
creators seem hesitant to provide .rpms (.debs, yes,

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Congradulate Birthday Boy Putin. Link to send birthday wishes via
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Well I don't think China could force Yahoo! to give up info.  So if they
are so willing to give it, why wouldn't they be willing to give info to
some silly group who may one day decide to get a hair up their ass about
the practice of BDSMers? (not to mention folks who don't even practice,
but who are just interested in information) What about folks who are
interested in talking about software security issues?  Didja read about
the guy in China who got 11 years for downloading and printing out pro-democracy
info?
http://www.democracy.org.hk/EN/2002/aug/news_04.html
I'm confused about what you're confused about.
Cindy
On 18 Sep 2002, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote:
>
> I'm a bit confused about this boycott thing.  How is what China is
> doing any different than having Scientology and who ever else
> state-side who takes the whim evoking the DMCA to close down foreign
> sites they deem inappropriate?  At least the Chinese make it voluntary
> and ask politely, rather than just sending legal musclemen first off.
>
>
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