No, hits=-16.9 required=5.0
	tests=AWL,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,NOSPAM_INC,REFERENCES,
	      SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE
	version=2.50-cvs

>>>>> "E" == Eirikur Hallgrimsson <eh@mad.scientist.com> writes:
E> ...  If my environment cannot be made beautiful, in
E> some sense I cannot live.
"The first question I ask myself when something doesn't seem to be
beautiful is why do I think it's not beautiful. And very shortly you
discover that there is no reason." -- John Cage
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No, hits=-11.0 required=5.0
	tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,
	      NOSPAM_INC,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL,
	      RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,
	      USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_KMAIL
	version=2.50-cvs

On Wednesday 02 October 2002 06:37 pm, Tom wrote:
> But what actually happened in Jaguar was that Apple added code to
> exclude all non-Apple menu extras.
Too, too, too, true.  Just you try to muck with Job's blessed Aqua
interface.   Or remove the fscking dock.  OSX is such a step down from
Classic with Kaleidoscope skinning the entire UI.  As an artist, I resent
it deeply.   (This is not in praise of Classic.)  If my environment cannot
be made beautiful, in some sense I cannot live.
Eirikur

No, hits=-14.5 required=5.0
	tests=AWL,DEAR_SOMEBODY,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL,
	      RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE
	version=2.50-cvs

--- begin forwarded text
Status: RO
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 07:56:39 +0100
Subject: The 3rd Annual Consult Hyperion Digital Identity Forum
From: "David G.W. Birch" <dgw-lists@birches.org>
To: Bob Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>
Cc: Digital Bearer Settlement List <dbs@philodox.com>
Dear All,
See www.digitalidentityforum.com for more details. Speakers include
Microsoft and Liberty Alliance, UK central and local government, law
enforcement, financial services (Egg and RBS/NatWest), EC Research Centre, a
psychologist and others. Look forward to seeing you there.
Regards,
Dave Birch.
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-- tel +44 (0)1483 301793, fax +44 (0)1483 561657
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-- See you at the 2nd Annual Digital Transactions Forum in Singapore
-- October 16th/17th 2002, see http://www.digitaltransactionsforum.com/
--- end forwarded text
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The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/>
44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
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[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'