On 10 Aug 2002, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote:
> My uneducated guess is that all they need to jump expensive whitelist
> walls would be buckshot a spam-laden Klez with a 5-million-addresses
> mailer; if it finds just one vulnerable host on an Exchange server,
> through hopping addressbooks across a few degrees of freedom, a world
> of whitelists are instantly breechable.
You seem to be saying that whitelists are useless, because there are worms
which can compromise your system, read your address book/whitelist, and
sent themselves on, compromising a nonnegligible fraction of systems as
they go along.
While mailing lists can be spam/worm amplifiers, I don't think this is
true for individual users even today. Moreover, worms which use email as
vector exist *only* because a single vendor ships mailers with broken
default settings, and insists to make documents executables. This makes
for very bad press, and eventually that vendor is going to wise up, and
stop shipping as many broken wares (or people will switch to more secure
alternatives, whatever comes first).
http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork

Wow, if they put a VRML front end on it it would be 100% worthless rather
than just 99%
IRC...Bots....scripts.....been there done that and much better.
If these folks actualy saw the xddc instafilesharing scripts must 12 year
olds hang off of Mirc  they might get a clue, then again they might
already have teh clue that sometimes you can packege the obvious and sell
it to the clueless.

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