from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D8944160
	for <zzzz@localhost>; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 06:06:44 -0400 (EDT)
from phobos [127.0.0.1]
	by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0)
	for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:06:44 +0100 (IST)
from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org
    (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7MIPTZ19588 for <zzzz@spamassassin.taint.org>;
    Thu, 22 Aug 2002 19:25:29 +0100
from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix)
    with ESMTP id 94BC22940D4; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 11:23:08 -0700 (PDT)
from localhost.localdomain (pm7-32.sba1.netlojix.net
    [207.71.222.128]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7AD294099 for
    <fork@xent.com>; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 11:22:33 -0700 (PDT)
Message from fork-request@xent.com of
    "Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:30:03 PDT."
    <20020821183003.25673.41476.Mailman@lair.xent.com>
From fork-admin@xent.com  Fri Aug 23 11:08:20 2002

>                                 You have multiple generations of
> peasants/squatters that cultivate and live on the lands almost as a
1 year ought to be more than sufficient,
on the government maps, or paid for with
a bank loan, especially when nearby vacant
lots have shotgun wielding men presumably
intent on keeping them "development" free.
Now, it may be that "Manhattanites' view
of America" to say that outside of Metro
Manila, Davao, and maybe another city or
two (Cebu?), everything else (literally)
is the boondocks.  But going on that very
broad assumption, I guess I'm describing
the flip side of Mr. Roger's experience:
the paisanos (who leave behind those who
remain on a patron's rural land) move to
Manila, and (the second assumption) squat
in shantytowns there, at least until they
So, going on two large assumptions, I can
come up with a scenario under which title
would take 20 years: a shantytown arises
whatever the Spanish used to divvy up the
land) and it takes decades of arguing to
put together a package which somehow can
both compensate the owner and record lots
title to an existing lot, between parties
who have money, ought not to be a problem.
to "introduce market mechanisms".  It is
which works when many of the agents (are
>              [land reform] meant that all the agricultural producers had
> to plant crops all the time (profitable or not) ...
What happened to more highly-capitalized
land?  Putting in trees instead of crops
> Mr. Long, I think you'd particularly enjoy the De Soto work.