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From fork-admin@xent.com  Thu Sep 19 13:14:49 2002

Chuck Murcko wrote:
> Heh, ten years ago saying the exact same words was most definitely not
> "parroting the party line".
>
> It was even less so thirty years ago. My story remains the same, take
> it or leave it. I've said the same words to white supremacists as to
> suburban leftist punks as to homeys as to French Irish, etc. etc.:
>
> I don't have to agree with anything you say. I *am* obligated to
> defend to the death your right to say it. I don't give a rat's ass
> where you say it, even in France. I don't care where the political
> pendulum has swung currently.
>
> Chuck
I had to laugh at Rumsfield yesterday - when he was heckled by
protestors, he said something like "They couldn't do that in Iraq."
Meanwhile, from what I could tell, the protestors were being arrested.
Owen

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