> On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 04:03:07PM +0100, Padraig Brady mentioned:
>  Hey...is that one of my nice wai-yip stuffed ones ?

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On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 09:28:57AM +0100, Hunt, Bryan mentioned:
> I'm not knocking dell in general, my next machine is going to be a dell.
> But buying a random dell box is likely to result in much tearing out of
> hair.
Buying any new machine is going to cause problems with a six month old
set of drivers. Same happens in windows - you have to go get your drivers.
Yes, dell use the most recent stuff they can, to save money. That's not a
bad thing. Just a bad thing for those that hope a distro will work out of
the box.
Kate
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